tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6745824333843276309.post6122218977573480089..comments2023-08-10T03:46:17.650-07:00Comments on Just JoeP: Instead of a Plunger, Use Bernoulli's PrincipleJustJoePhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02882794348703779345noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6745824333843276309.post-43008419328391897552014-11-22T09:08:45.852-08:002014-11-22T09:08:45.852-08:00Honestly, in the 4 years since I posted this, each...Honestly, in the 4 years since I posted this, each time I've tried it (1/2 a dozen) it's only worked about 1/2 the time. A MUCH BETTER solution is to buy the new smooth-flow toilets that (in California at least) are free, once you fill out all the rebates from the city & the water company. We bought one a few months ago, and it is flushing like a champ, no issues. Much less water, smooth surfaces inside the bowl and tubes, better construction and flow with less turns and restrictions. Highly recommended.JustJoePhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02882794348703779345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6745824333843276309.post-76369281825371718982010-09-06T16:09:16.163-07:002010-09-06T16:09:16.163-07:00I am going to try the JoeP/Bernoulli method next t...I am going to try the JoeP/Bernoulli method next time I get the chance.KnuckleSplitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08979553706592601644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6745824333843276309.post-2966496663035664812010-09-06T16:06:11.649-07:002010-09-06T16:06:11.649-07:00Plungers are a fine instrument of applied mechanic...Plungers are a fine instrument of applied mechanical force, to dislodge a hydraulic blockage, but I abhor having to clean them. After all, look at what it just plunged, and then store it behind the tank, or elsewhere, nasty? Ew. I'd rather not.<br /><br />And yes, I could increase the toilet tank capacity again, and use copious amounts of water on a daily basis, but I've only had to employ the Bernoulli principle 3 times in the last month or so - saving 60 to 100 extra gallons, and using perhaps 2 extra. <br /><br />Using compressed air or a raised tank would be fine for new construction, or where cost is no object, but when I'm already underwater by 50%, adding more improvements doesn't sound worth it.<br /><br />The use of "more water" by employing Bernoulli is not a daily occurrence. It is a rare phenomenon, chez nous.JustJoePhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02882794348703779345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6745824333843276309.post-76996816905329209202010-09-06T15:09:14.296-07:002010-09-06T15:09:14.296-07:00The start of your post talks about conservation of...The start of your post talks about conservation of water and how important it is when living in the desert. But then you lead into a novel idea for replacing plungers by using more water, like by flushing a toilet or draining a bathtub on the same trunk line. The plunger is better at conserving water than the Bernoulli method.<br /><br />Also plungers don't just pressurize the blockage, they also create "suction", ie. an area of low pressure, behind the the blockage to help free it up by reversing the blockage momentarily. Plungers also can create an oscillating positive/negative pressure wave behind the blockage by somebody .. errr... plunging them up and down. There is no way for your Bernoulli method to do this.<br /><br />I like the idea, though I am admittedly surprised it works so well. But it seems to solve one problem at the same time making another problem worse (using additional water).<br /><br />Perhaps try raising the toilet tank high above the the bowl like toilets were originally in the old days, being actuated by a chain pull instead of a handle. The extra pressure head of the water might help flush the toilet better without using more water. I think some toilets use compressed air too now, so maybe that would be another way to use Bernoulli without adding more water to the equation. A kindo of compressed air system plunger or something.<br /><br />I don't want to sound militantly pro-plunger here, but give the plunger it's due. ;)KnuckleSplitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08979553706592601644noreply@blogger.com