tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6745824333843276309.post3374954804592698586..comments2023-08-10T03:46:17.650-07:00Comments on Just JoeP: Anything over Moen, anydayJustJoePhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02882794348703779345noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6745824333843276309.post-68106271591149774892009-09-14T17:56:26.796-07:002009-09-14T17:56:26.796-07:00They had me fooled, as I rented for many years and...They had me fooled, as I rented for many years and admired their slick advertising campaign. The Moens look so pretty in the stores too, but they are, as you've astutely observed, crap. <br /><br />I'm glad it's not just me. Phoenix water IS hard, but Central Indiana water is probably not much better. <br /><br />On thing on Delta shower faucets, DON'T use the handle, as a grasping point, when you;re like washing your feet or bending over to pick up a dropped item. They're not built for the side loads an adult American male can put on them for anything other than turning on and off. Our South Carolinian Delta shower valve failed after just 8 years. The replacement was straightforward, and without proprietary tools. =PJustJoePhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02882794348703779345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6745824333843276309.post-30526379316406803552009-09-14T17:43:39.253-07:002009-09-14T17:43:39.253-07:00I too have had choice words with the Moen crap tha...I too have had choice words with the Moen crap that most builders use. We had to replace a shower assembly when the washer that turns off the water, stopped being useful. The only way to remove a 10 year old, mineral encrusted faucet is to use the proprietary pulling tool. Fortunately I have a friend who owned one. This only prolonged the need to cut it out and replace with a new, reliable, well designed assembly. Kudos to PP and Delta for hiring engineers that don't drive trains. I have now replaced all faucets, the last one this past weekend, Moen no mo.maxcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00072117185301886397noreply@blogger.com